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Poster: stratvsirwin Date: Sep 14, 2009 9:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: what shows to listen to while...

iam interested in takeing a journey.
iam wondering if anyone knows for sure certan dates where EVERYONE in the bend was dosed besides pig respectivly.
i know there is a show or two in 69 but not witch one. iam referring to the quotes in phils book where he seen the rainbow between him and jerry and the multicolored sox lol Mickey had to give him a lil talkdown before hand. but iam looking for shows where they were dosed besides the tests. thanx

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Sep 14, 2009 1:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what shows to listen to while...

I bet you could pick any show done on a Saturday while Owsley was with them. In the liner notes for DP 26 (4/26/69, 4/27/69) Owsley wrote:

"We generally did psychedelics on a Saturday..."

Here is such a show. I wouldn't be surprised if, you know...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-05-31.sbd.oleynick.76.sbeok.shnf

For the heck of it I checked a wiki calendar for 1969 and about three of the shows already mentioned, 6/8/69, 11/8/69 and 5/31/69 were performed on a Saturday... food for thought.

Here is another suspect, a psychedelic Saturday night in April '69:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-04-05.sbd.miller.18701.sbesok.shnf

This post was modified by SkyDawg on 2009-09-14 20:45:13

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 14, 2009 6:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Saturday dosed shows

Hmmm....nice bit of research!
Naturally I had to go through all of 1969's Saturday shows....
The first one: 1-18-69 Playboy After Dark taping, of course!
Some others: 2-22-69 Dream Bowl (naturally); 3-1-69 Fillmore; 4-26-69 Chicago (obviously!); 8-16-69 Woodstock (no surprise).

Here's the list:
1-18-69
1-25-69
2-15-69
2-22-69
3-1-69
3-15-69
3-22-69
3-29-69
4-5-69
4-12-69
4-26-69
5-3-69
5-10-69
5-24-69
5-31-69
6-7-69
6-14-69
6-21-69
6-28-69
7-12-69
8-2-69
8-16-69
8-23-69
8-30-69
9-6-69
9-27-69
10-15-69
11-1-69
11-8-69
11-15-69
12-13-69
12-20-69

(For what it's worth, 8-24-68, 10-12-68, 12-7 and 12-21-68 were on Saturdays.
(Some early 1970 Saturday shows: 1-3-70 Fillmore East, 2-14-70 Fillmore East, 3-21-70 Capitol Theater, and 5-2-70 Harpur, among others.)

But, though it's fun to speculate, somehow I don't think Saturday shows are any more likely to have a 'dosed' band than other days....

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 14, 2009 7:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Saturday dosed shows

Well, since they all had to get back to the 9 to 5 routine come Monday, makes sense to me.....

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Sep 14, 2009 8:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Saturday dosed shows

I just threw that out as food for thought. Owsley is the one who made the claim.

It is not the most outrageous claim I have heard concerning the Grateful Dead & L.S.D. In her book "Sweet Chaos- The Grateful Dead's American Adventure" author Carol Brightman (sister of Candace), makes the claim:

"It surprises me to learn that The Grateful Dead used L.S.D. every time they played until the 1970's"

I surprises me too... not too sure I believe that claim, but I DO tend to believe Owsley though.

Kind of gives a whole new meaning to "One More Saturday Night" Ha!

You have to admit looking at that list of dates that there some pretty far out shows played on Saturdays.. Harpur College, 8/2/69's Dark Star and Caution played with guest horn & fiddle players.. 5/3/69's "Oh come all ye faithful to Winterland" song, 7/12/69's "LOvelight" where Weir starts doing a "man on the street" wandering interview and Mickey Hart or someone starts chanting out about "lets get stoned!!" as Pigpen tries to make Mickey sing. The amazing 10/25/69 Dark Star... the 8/30/69 Dark Star.. too many strange moments..

Check out Lovelight starting around the 13:00 mark.. and "speak into the microphone".

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-07-12.sbd-aud.hanno.4645.sbeok.shnf

This post was modified by SkyDawg on 2009-09-15 03:21:31

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 14, 2009 7:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Saturday dosed shows

That's a bit harder to fathom, although if by "used" they included the greater Grateful Dead (i.e., the audience).

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Sep 14, 2009 3:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what shows to listen to while...

"Saturday Afternoon... Acid, Incense, and Balloons..."
-Jefferson Airplane "Won't You Try/Saturday Afternoon"

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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Sep 14, 2009 6:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what shows to listen to while...

Not sure if they were tripping at Veneta, but everybody else was. “The temperature would rise to 105 degrees, everyone would get dosed, nobody would get hurt and the band would soldier through into territories seldom visited." "From start to finish this is the best show they ever did" -- Capn Doubledose. "Stories from old deadheads reveal many of the same recollections...lots of good acid, lots of dancing, lots of freedom, lots of heat, lots of great trips. Deeply psychedelic playing on even the simplest songs, not to mention "Playin'", "Dark Star," "Bird Song"... (from Setlists.net)

http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-08-27.sbd.orf.3328.sbeok.shnf
or
http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-08-27.sbd.bertha-ashley.21619.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 14, 2009 11:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what shows to listen to while...

Interesting name. Strat Vs. Irwin? Sounds like a celebrity death match between our own ultra-knowledgeable Stratocaster and Steve Irwin(AKA The Crocodile Hunter, RIP).



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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 14, 2009 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what shows to listen to while...

6/8/69 has an awesome first set, but that second set is just dreadful - 40 minutes of Ceballos ruining Lovelight, then two Elvin Bishop blues.

For a show where everyone is clearly dosed, 5/5/67 is the place to go.
I suspect they were dosed at other '67 shows too, like 6/18 or 9/3, but you can't tell by the playing.

Otherwise, for maximum psychedelic shows, head straight to Jan/Feb '68.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 14, 2009 2:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what shows to listen to while...

5/5/67 Golden Road!?!

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Sep 14, 2009 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: "Snake Music"

"Early in June they played three nights at the Fillmore West with Junior Walker, and someone, as usual, dosed the apple juice. This was not just any dose, it was the biggest dose ever. Most say it was several people, but one informed source argued that only the big-time smuggler/dealer Ken Goldfinger, a friend of the band's, could have such a quantity at hand, for there was probably a full gram of crystal LSD in the juice, worth perhaps $50,000. In Hart's memory, 'the bottle was glowing.' Lesh said later that one could taste the LSD in the juice. When it came time to play, he was so ecstatically zonked that he politely declined when Mickey told him it was time to go to work. 'I don't really care to play right now, thank you.' Hart was, as Lesh put it, 'so sweet about it, He didn't guilt trip me.' Mickey helped him up, walked him to the stage, propped him up against an amp, draped his bass over his shoulders, plugged it in, and turned the amp to maximum volume. To Lesh, 'It felt like some sort of fabulous artifact that I'd never seen before. The strings were all snakey, but beautiful colors, kind of fish or reptile scales.' They began to play, and it was, Lesh continued, 'the strangest polyphonic blues ever, literally in that sense, many voiced,' because there was no first chord, no downbeat, just utterly strange music utterly in flux. And in the middle, they invited poor Elvin Bishop, who'd just walked in, to join them. Lesh played a thirteen-bar blues, someone else a sixteen, and Elvin had a look of 'Where am I? What universe is this?' Lesh called it 'snake music,' and he was right."
Dennis McNally

6/8/69 - Fillmore West

Dancing In The Streets > He Was A Friend Of Mine > China Cat Sunflower > Jam > New Potato Caboose, Me And My Uncle Turn On Your Love Light*, The Things I Used To Do^, Who's Lovin' You Tonight^, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums > The Other One > Cosmic Charlie

http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-06-08.sbd.cotsman.19285.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Sep 15, 2009 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Snake Music'

I love that passage in Phil's book so I also went on a search about a year and a half ago for this show.

I always thought that show where Phil was stoned out of his gourd was: http://www.archive.org/details/gd69-06-06.sbd.jupile.9494.sbeok.shnf

I am pretty sure of this because in Searching For The Sound, Phil says that Jerry was late to the show and didn't dose with the apple juice. Also, the Lovelight is off the friggin' chain!

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Sep 14, 2009 9:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what shows to listen to while...

i suggest disc 2 of dicks picks volume 16. you will not be disappointed. dark star> other one > dark star > uncle john's band jam> dark star> st. stephen > the eleven.

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Poster: wineland Date: Sep 14, 2009 12:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: what shows to listen to while...

Take a listen to the "mescaline show." Lots of great growling and commentary. Check out Dancin' for some good peaking, Bobby cracks up Donna. I prefer the Vernon AUD. Seems like the crowd is in on their little hijinx.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-05-11.aud.vernon.6317.sbeok.shnf